German planes used for clandestine operations
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German planes used for clandestine operations
Does anyone know if German build Ar 196 seaplanes fell into allied hands and were used for clandestine operations from UK?
The one caugth by Norwegians unfortunately crashed and the He 115's the Norwegians flew over to UK apparently was never used for operations to Norway according to sources having access to Skavhaugen and Offerdal's (the two Norwegian pilots flying these planes) logbooks which otherwise show use of the He 115's planes for clandestine operations in Biscaya and Malta.
Did the British use German built planes at all, except for the above use of the He 115's.
On the other side the Germans apparantly used a lot of Allied built planes toward the end of the war for their clandestine operations ..see KG 200 story.
Oyvind
The one caugth by Norwegians unfortunately crashed and the He 115's the Norwegians flew over to UK apparently was never used for operations to Norway according to sources having access to Skavhaugen and Offerdal's (the two Norwegian pilots flying these planes) logbooks which otherwise show use of the He 115's planes for clandestine operations in Biscaya and Malta.
Did the British use German built planes at all, except for the above use of the He 115's.
On the other side the Germans apparantly used a lot of Allied built planes toward the end of the war for their clandestine operations ..see KG 200 story.
Oyvind
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Re: German planes used for clandestine operations
Hello!
At least there are some informations here:
Four of the Norwegian aircraft (F.52, F.56, F.58 and F.64) made the journey to the United Kingdom after the June 10, 1940 surrender, a fifth (F.50) escaping to Finland (...)
The four escaped aircraft were at first reformed into the Norwegian Helensburgh Group under Cdr. Bugge.
The exiled Norwegian Cabinet Nygaardsvold made plans soon after arriving in the UK to use the four He 115 aircraft to perform leaflet dropping missions over Norway. The leaflet mission was to deliver a declaration to the occupied Norwegian people, stating that the Norwegian authorities were re-established in the UK and were rejecting any Nazi German overtures proposing a German-Norwegian peace deal. All four Norwegian He 115s were ordered from Helensburgh to Scapa Flow on 3 July 1940 to carry out the mission, although one had to return to Helensburgh due to engine problems. The three He 115s assembled at Scapa Flow were ordered to fly to Norway and drop the declaration over the cities of Oslo, Bergen and Trondheim. Shortly before the mission was to get under way the British Air Ministry intervened and stopped the expedition, insisting that such an undertaking would be suicidal to attempt with the slow flying He 115s. Three days later the three Norwegian aircraft returned to Helensburgh.[3]
Three of the Norwegian He 115s (F.56, F.58 and F.64) were subsequently used in covert operations with Norwegian crews off Norway and in the Mediterranean Sea. In British service, the three received new serial numbers: BV184, BV185 and BV187.[1] BV184 was attacked and damaged by two Polish Spitfire fighters over the Bay of Biscay in the spring of 1942 while cooperating with French fishing boats[4], and later lost in a refuelling fire in the UK.[1] BV185 was destroyed in an Italian air raid on Kalafrana, Malta after flying just one clandestine operation to North Africa.[1] BV187 flew several missions on the North African coast from its base in Malta before finally being attacked and destroyed by two German Bf 109s.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinkel_He_115
At least there are some informations here:
Four of the Norwegian aircraft (F.52, F.56, F.58 and F.64) made the journey to the United Kingdom after the June 10, 1940 surrender, a fifth (F.50) escaping to Finland (...)
The four escaped aircraft were at first reformed into the Norwegian Helensburgh Group under Cdr. Bugge.
The exiled Norwegian Cabinet Nygaardsvold made plans soon after arriving in the UK to use the four He 115 aircraft to perform leaflet dropping missions over Norway. The leaflet mission was to deliver a declaration to the occupied Norwegian people, stating that the Norwegian authorities were re-established in the UK and were rejecting any Nazi German overtures proposing a German-Norwegian peace deal. All four Norwegian He 115s were ordered from Helensburgh to Scapa Flow on 3 July 1940 to carry out the mission, although one had to return to Helensburgh due to engine problems. The three He 115s assembled at Scapa Flow were ordered to fly to Norway and drop the declaration over the cities of Oslo, Bergen and Trondheim. Shortly before the mission was to get under way the British Air Ministry intervened and stopped the expedition, insisting that such an undertaking would be suicidal to attempt with the slow flying He 115s. Three days later the three Norwegian aircraft returned to Helensburgh.[3]
Three of the Norwegian He 115s (F.56, F.58 and F.64) were subsequently used in covert operations with Norwegian crews off Norway and in the Mediterranean Sea. In British service, the three received new serial numbers: BV184, BV185 and BV187.[1] BV184 was attacked and damaged by two Polish Spitfire fighters over the Bay of Biscay in the spring of 1942 while cooperating with French fishing boats[4], and later lost in a refuelling fire in the UK.[1] BV185 was destroyed in an Italian air raid on Kalafrana, Malta after flying just one clandestine operation to North Africa.[1] BV187 flew several missions on the North African coast from its base in Malta before finally being attacked and destroyed by two German Bf 109s.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinkel_He_115
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